Beth Sarim

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  Oh, and Freddie Franz says, "Thanks an effing bunch!"

  by rory-ks in

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  the faithful and discreet slave are free to look back now and make a mockery of whatever beliefs were previously held by jehovah's witnesses.. they are also free to make types and anti-types of some parts of scripture, and not of others.

  they do that thing where they focus on one part so as to distract from the fact that they are doing the exact same thing with another part.. for example, in his talk featuring the new understanding of the "man with the secretary's inkhorn," geoffrey jackson goes on to say:.

  we know in recent years we've been careful not to try and make types and anti-types of every aspect of what the bible says.

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  Beth Sarim

  I beg to guess that Rutherford and Freddie Franz were the two leaders that could have really intimidated the rank and file in their day(s).
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  Does growing up in a religious family make you MEAN?

  by Divergent in

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  2. friends

  yeah, i was mean.

  could it be that i was not encouraged to have non-jw's as friends, so i viewed them as insignificant?

  could it be that i found it difficult to live up to "christian standards" and took it out on others?

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  Just an amazing find. I think that the less and less religious people are kinder and kinder, amazing but true. JW families are some of the most rude people imaginable to non JW's, especially Catholics or other forms of Christianity.
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  Awake - February 2015: What do you know about JWs

  by Designer Stubble in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  true false - 8 questions1 jehovahs witnesses are christianstrue - we are the only true christians.

  however, jesus is always secondary to yhwh or yahweh, who we for some reason call jehovah.2 jehovahs witnesses are creationiststrue, we are just not young-earth creationists3 jehovahs witnesses do not believe in doctorsfalse - of course we believe in doctors.

  if we can believe in an invisible sky daddy, surely we can believe in the doctor standing before us in flesh and blood.

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  What an awesome thread.
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  This just in new policy bethel

  by poopie in

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  2. friends

  i called bethel recently asking a question.

  the question was do you have a bible example of someone that showed pricipled love to anothet human by giving them the silent treament for months?

  answer well bro are you a jw yes well we will aens the elders over to help you.

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  Exactly why they want it in writing. Any, Any negative writing toward the Borg any questioning is redirected to your local elder gestapo. Providing your name and address provides them the avenue for your local henchmen to call on you!!!
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  Discussion with a Pioneer

  by Saved_JW in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  two weeks ago i had an opportunity to meet up with a pioneer whom a friend had accepted a "bible study" from.

  my christian friend invited me to come along as support, so my plan was to sit back and listen for the most part.

  well, that was the idea anyways.

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  ''JWs can't show any doubt or flexibility at all in front of each other''

  True, so true!!

  I really do believe all JW's have doubts. Something has to ignite them. JW's cant' show any doubt amongst themselves for fear of being judged as ''weak'' or being fearful of being subjected to a judicial committee. The spectre of it all makes them frightful of fear!!
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  Please could you give me your opinions on this statement? . . .

  by Miss Worldly in

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  'i have prayed, and confessed my sins to my god, i'm not telling them (the elders) anything'.

  .. could this be a significant sign that there maybe a small dent in the armour of an active jw?

  or is it just a case of 'keep your nose out' ?

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  ''Telling the elders'', is only one of their control mechanisms. It's all a bunch of bull $shit, or politics. If God knows your whole heart, mind and soul, their is no need to have elders run your business.

  On a side note, about elders committing past sins, transgressions. Yes, it is true. If an elder has indeed committed a past sin and 2 or 3 years has passed, then, and only then, only are ONLY elders excused from any judicial action or deletion of their appointments. The elder(s) who transgressed, can retain their title. So yes, elders are above the law, in a way.
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  I miss my family so much. I thought I was over it but I have breakdowns every few months thinking about my family

  by macys in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  as most of you know i have been shunned by my family for 2 years because of a photo posted on facebook of me kissing another girl at a party.

  the matter was not dealt with fairly but it is over now and i am 100% certain that jdub org is a cult.

  but i miss my family so much.

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  macy's

  Being disfellowshipped because of an image of merely kissing a girl!!! Wow!!. Then that confirms what others including myself have come to realize or suspect. The elders these days are quicker to disfellowship and slower to reinstate.

  I have it on good authority that elders have these so called all weekend, 2 day elder courses. That is where they are trained and conditioned to enforce even more rigid rules. Like that of quicker to disfellowship and slower to reinstate, without even the rank and file knowing.
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  "Only Baptized Ones have Unrestricted Privilege of Prayer"

  by BluesBrother in

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  2. beliefs

  i was sitting at the recent circuit assembly that i attended, (the things i do for sis blues) and the baptism talk was under way .

  i admit that my mind was more on my imminent packed lunch and flask of coffee but i distinctly heard the speaker make the statement that heads this thread and cite a wt reference.. you what !

  i was shocked....... how can they possibly make such an arrogant statement ?

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  I think what that WT meant was only baptized ones only have the privilege of praying audibly in front of people, offering prayer before a group. They should make things more clear, discernable so people will understand more easily instead of having to spell things out.
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  Would you like to make a donation?

  by pixel in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  is this new?

  i noticed it today:.

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  They claim they don't pass a plate. Well hypocritically they do in a way by imposing on people by subtly asking for a donation.
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  Anthony Morris's talk about beards and facial hair

  by EndofMysteries in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i just found an archive of one of anthony morris's talks back from 1916, (yes the man is that old), about facial hair.

  obviously he recycles his talks as it will sound very similar to a recent rant of his!

  "it's in america, and it's in europe, they have the metrosexual look.

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  I don't think I've ever seen a picture of Rutherford with any hair on his face besides his eyebrows.